Legislature(2011 - 2012)BARNES 124

03/17/2011 03:00 PM House ENERGY


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03:07:07 PM Start
03:07:53 PM HB39
03:24:39 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 39 RCA UTILITY RATES; REFUND PROCEDURES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HJR 20 ROADLESS RULE & CHUGACH AND TONGASS HYDRO TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
          HB  39-RCA UTILITY RATES; REFUND PROCEDURES                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:09:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PRUITT announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 39,  "An Act  requiring a utility  applying to                                                               
the Regulatory Commission of Alaska for  a new or revised rate to                                                               
have a refund procedure in place."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  removed his objection to  HB 39, Version                                                               
D,  which was  left pending  at  the House  Special Committee  on                                                               
Energy meeting of 2/10/11.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:10:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER made a motion  to adopt HB 39, Version 27-                                                               
LS0228\T, Kane,  2/25/11, as the  working document.   There being                                                               
no objection, Version T was before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:11:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  DUNSMORE,  Staff,  Representative  Pete  Petersen,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, informed  the committee  that the  Regulatory                                                               
Commission of Alaska  (RCA) has scheduled discussion  of the bill                                                               
for its meeting  on 3/23/11.  House Bill 39,  Version T, reflects                                                               
several changes from the previous  version that were suggested by                                                               
the Department  of Law (DOL),  and presents a "win"  position for                                                               
consumers,  utilities, and  the RCA.   He  directed attention  to                                                               
page l,  beginning at line 6,  and said the change  in Section 1,                                                               
Subsection (e), requires  that a refund plan  is submitted within                                                               
60 days  after the  granting of an  interim and  refundable rate,                                                               
instead  of  at  the  time  of the  rate  filing.    This  change                                                               
decreases the possibility of an  unnecessary filing by a utility.                                                               
Mr.  Dunsmore  continued that  Subsection  (e)  further allows  a                                                               
utility to submit  its refund plan in a  procedure preapproved by                                                               
the RCA  through regulations,  in a  plan previously  approved by                                                               
the RCA  and put in the  utility's tariff, or in  a case-specific                                                               
refund  plan.     Subsection  (f)  requires  the   RCA  to  adopt                                                               
regulations  relating  to  Subsection  (e),  and  Subsection  (g)                                                               
requires  that the  ruling  on  the refund  plan  occurs with  or                                                               
before  the final  ruling on  the rate  case.   Section 2  is the                                                               
uncodified  implementation provision  that  requires  the RCA  to                                                               
begin the process  of adopting the regulations within  30 days of                                                               
the effective date of Section 2.   Sections 3 and 4 are effective                                                               
date  clauses that  change the  effective  date of  Section 1  to                                                               
7/1/13, and the effective date of Section 2 to "immediate."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TUCK asked  for  a  review of  the  three ways  a                                                               
utility can submit its plan.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE restated the three options.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for  clarification  on the  second                                                               
option.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:17:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUNSMORE  explained  that the  second  procedure  allows  an                                                               
individual  utility to  determine  its particular  organizational                                                               
needs for  a specific  procedure that may  be different  from the                                                               
preapproved  procedure.    With  the approval  of  the  RCA,  the                                                               
procedure would be part of the utility's tariff.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  surmised an  application for  an original                                                               
tariff,  or  for  amendments, would  provide  an  opportunity  to                                                               
include a refund procedure.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE indicated yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTAIVE   SADDLER  then   asked  whether   the  preapproved                                                               
procedure could apply to all utilities.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:18:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNSMORE opined that  it is up to the RCA  to define how that                                                               
would work;  in fact, the intent  of the legislation is  to leave                                                               
that to  the RCA's discretion  after hearing from  ratepayers and                                                               
the utilities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PRUITT recalled that the  RCA earlier expressed concerns                                                               
about  implementing  regulations on  a  refund,  before a  refund                                                               
situation  arises.   He asked  for the  RCA's "comfort  level" on                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:20:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUNSMORE  relayed  the sponsor's  intention  to  review  any                                                               
concerns raised  by the  RCA and  DOL.  He  referred to  the rate                                                               
refund case  involving ENSTAR Natural  Gas Company  (ENSTAR), and                                                               
noted that in that case there  was a gas cost adjustment process,                                                               
which does  not usually result in  an interim rate.   As the bill                                                               
was  originally  written,  that   procedure  may  not  have  been                                                               
identified;  however,  with the  change  allowing  the filing  to                                                               
occur  60 days  after the  interim rate  has been  approved, this                                                               
problem  is solved.    Mr. Dunsmore  advised  that the  technical                                                               
reasons to choose  one refund plan over another are  best left to                                                               
the  regulation process  and the  RCA's  professional staff;  for                                                               
example,  if a  utility does  not have  available cash  to pay  a                                                               
refund, the  repayment may be  structured over a period  of time,                                                               
thus the RCA should address this in the regulatory process.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:23:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OLSON  asked whether the  RCA has opened  a docket                                                               
on this issue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:23:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART  GOERING,  Assistant   Attorney  General,  Commercial/Fair                                                               
Business Section,  Civil Division (Anchorage), Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL), said the RCA has not  opened a docket on this subject, and                                                               
that would be required by  this proposed legislation.  He pointed                                                               
out that the RCA already has  the authority to require the filing                                                               
of refund plans at the beginning  of a rate case, rather than the                                                               
traditional  practice  of  waiting   until  the  end,  which  may                                                               
possibly become  a desirable procedure  with rate cases  in order                                                               
to find out what problems exist with preapproved refund plans.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:24:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 39 was heard and held.]                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 39 - 01 Hearing Request for Version T.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 04 Summary of Changes, from Versions D to T.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 02 Hearing Request for Version T, Table of Contents.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 03 Draft CS Version T.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 05 Sponsor Statement for Version T.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 06 Sectional Analysis of Version T.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 07 AKPIRG letter of support, 10 February 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 08 Version A (Original Bill).pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 09 Version D.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 10 Fiscal Note CCED-RCA-2-4-11.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 11 Enstar refund plan filing with the RCA, 20 April 2010.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HB 39 - 12 Timeline of Enstar case by Rep. Pete Petersen's office.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HB 39
HJR 20 - 01 Original Resolution, Version A.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 02 Sponsor Statement.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 03 Talking Points.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 04 Tongass National Forest Map, Inventoried Roadless Areas.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 05 Juneau Chamber of Commerce Resolution 07-10, 28 December 2010.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 07 Southeast Alaska Power Agency Letter of Support, 15 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 08 Sitka Economic Development Association Letter of Support, 16 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 06 Southeast Conference Letter of Support, 16 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 10 Alaska Power Association Resolution, December 2010.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 09 Alaska Power Association Letter of Support, 16 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 11 Letter of Support from Petersburg, 17 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20
HJR 20 - 12 Juneau Chamber of Commerce, 15 March 2011.pdf HENE 3/17/2011 3:00:00 PM
HJR 20